From: jesus_is_lord To: List Member Subject: Papist gets riled up. Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 11:47 PM jesus_is_lord [Reminder: this list is not for hellbounds. Repent and get washed in the blood of Jesus and it will be for you.] Dear Christian Friends: Greetings in the name of the ONLY wise God and Saviour Jesus Christ. As we go into the summer, the visits to the website typically decrease but for the past few days we've had a noticable increase, praise the Lord. There are some soulwinners on this list who have been spreading the word about the slideshow. Praise the Lord. One such brother sent me some information from a riled up papist. I will first publish his email and then I will publish my response. I didn't say anything profound, it's just common sense, yet, it may help somebody with their apologetics or in some other area. Particularly those who are bold enough to tell the truth. Maybe some softie will better understand the real issue and why we tell the truth. [Aside: For those brothers and sisters who have written me--I HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF WRITING YOU. Once again, I'm behind on my emails but please don't stop writing me because I love you.] ***THE EMAIL*** Hello Tracy, I received your message with the links to the work you did on the Antichrist. I'm glad you have the guts to send something like that out on cyber space. I sent it to brother Jeff Johnson on Plano, Texas. He is the one who wrote "The KJV vs. All Modern Versions" that you published on your site. He organized a network of mostly christian people to pass out useful information and prayer requests. Jeff sent your email to everyone in his mailing list and the following is someone's reply. I'm not sure what you think we should do or if the Lord leads you to do something. Here it is: "Jeff, I looked at that slide show and found it to be deceitful, dishonest and based on a lot of false data. The author surrounded his presentation with darkness and satanic symbols that have nothing to do with the Catholic Church. Is that the Christian way of doing things? The purpose undoubtedly was to put you in the "mood". I don't think Jesus would have done it that way. Sure there is plenty of room for honest discussion on Protestant vs Catholic beliefs but this web site does not do that. Did Catholics persecute Protestants? Yes they did. Was it right? No it wasn't. Did Protestant persecute Catholics? Yes they did. Was it right? No it wasn't. Does that prove Protestants are going to hell? Are there Catholic priests who are pedophiles, homosexuals and adulterers? Yes there are. Is everyone who claims to be Catholic going to heaven? Probably not. Are the Protestants who are pedophiles, homosexuals and adulterers? Yes there are. Does that prove Christianity is false? No it doesn't. It proves there are sinners in the church in need of a savior. Many of the sources sited by the author are of dubious character. Lies have been propagated for centuries even though they have been discredited. Recently a book was published by an English author titled "Hitler's Pope". The author claimed to have had access to "secret Vatican archives" and "never seen before" information. The Vatican archives are not secret. He was granted access, claiming to be a scholar. The facts are he didn't use any information that wasn't already published. He made up false and misleading statements. Now we have another book anti-Catholic bigots can use to justify there own twisted theories about the Catholic church. Are ex-Catholics a good source for information about the Church. Some may be but some may not be. Are people who quit your church reliable, authoritative sources for what your church is like? In my experience 80% of Catholics don't know what the Church teaches and disagree with what little they do know. They are only Catholic because they were brought up that way. Has Satan infiltrated elements of the Catholic Church? Yes he probably did. But if it was his church to start with, why did he need to infiltrate it? Has Satan infiltrated the Protestant church? Yes he probably did. Why does he do that? To destroy unity. I will repeat my offer to you again. If you want to know what Catholics really believe from someone who affirms and practices the teaching of the Church I would be happy to meet with you. If you want to talk about Scripture and doctrine I would be happy to do that too (and anyone else who would is interested as well). If you want to tell me I'm going to hell because my church is full of sinner's, then just forget it. If you want to continue to send out false and misleading information on the network I will continue to refute it as I have time (as long as you leave me on the network). Sincerely, Mark Woodson ***MY RESPONSE*** Dear Friend: Greetings and thanks for writing with an encouraging word. Concerning the Catholic man's response, it changes nothing. He gives no specifics about what is "deceitful" or "dishonest". In typical sweeping generalization he says the information is false. Papists cannot prove their heresy from the scriptures and so blow a lot of smoke. The quotes from the popes and the catechism are irrefutable. Concerning the comparison between "protestant" churches and Romanism... First of all, forget about "churchianity". I pledge no allegiance to a specific denomination. My allegiance is to Christ alone and my doctrine in the King James 1611 alone. I read and understand the Bible because the Holy Ghost lives inside of me as an individual believer. This man didn't really read a word on the slideshow. Too busy trying to defend "mother church". Christians are children of King Jesus, not the popes. There is no infallible protestant church. The church is composed of individual believers of the Lord Jesus Christ. On the other hand, the Catholic religion he belongs to claims to be the ONLY source for proper biblical interpretation. It claims that her popes are INFALLIBLE concerning "religious" matters. It makes a whole lotta sense to take a look at these wicked men. Papist historians will not refute that they have a shady history. On the slideshow there were a number of quotes from Catholic historians themselves who admit that the popes are a most licentious group. This being the case, the idea of infallibility goes out the window. The truth seeking Catholic will begin to question tenets they've taken for granted and begin to look at other areas. The slideshow really has little to do with the tenets of Catholicism, that blasphemy is found on our website. The slideshow was created to show what the Bible says about antichrist and how it is fulfilled in Romanism. Yes, I want them to be scared--papists are headed for a Devil's hell! The Bible says godly sorrow WORKETH REPENTANCE NOT TO BE REPENTED OF! It's alright to be sorrowful or scared if you gonna get straight! Fear keeps me from walking off a cliff, my brother. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. My goal is to warn. God told Ezekiel "...give them warning from me." I only expected to do something on the inverted cross for the slideshow, but the Lord took me in other directions--directions I never considered before. Your papist will have no idea what that means but those who are led by the Holy Ghost totally understand. Many people have no idea about the inquisition but after looking at the slideshow they can look it up for themselves. The papist email changes nothing. Truth seekers will take heed and question, willingly deceived will continue on their journey towards hell. I don't typically answer any of them that blow smokescreen but since you are a brother, I am happy to respond. The graphics...they are quite mild compared to the torture inflicted on our brothers and sisters, wouldn't you say? Romanism is a creep show and it has committed the most unthinkable crimes. It was loathsome to me to even post a few of the tortures they utilized. But I am going to continue to open up that can of worms for those who are looking for the truth come to my Master's feet. I'm going to keep on opening this thing up. I'm trying to fling the doors wide open. Woven at the end of the show is an allegory, much of which was taken from the testimony of a young lady who told me of her struggles within Romanism. She thought our website rididulous at first but ended up getting saved. He can't say that is made up but to be honest with you I do not care what he thinks. My only responsibility is warn. The Lord is responsible for the results. To this writer, I say, 1 Corinthians 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. Feel free to use or publish my comments (abridged or full) if you wish. God speed to you and Brother Jeff. May the papist get saved. Jesus Christ is the Lord. for Jesus' sake, tracy -- http://www.jesus-is-lord.com ...I do send thee unto them; and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD. And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns be with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house. Ezekiel 2:4, 6 ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to jesus_is_lord-unsubscribe@listbot.com Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb