jesus_is_lord Home Page: Archive: Message #31 Date: Sep 13 1999 23:31:38 EDT From: jesus_is_lord Subject: Does the earth revolve around the sun? [Reminder: this list is for Bible-believing Christians.] Dear Friends: Greetings in the name of the ONLY wise God and Saviour Jesus Christ. A brother recently wrote asking me about geocentricity. I just learned about it myself last year... ***What is geocentricity?*** Simply put, geocentricity says the earth is the center of the universe, not the sun. The sun revolves around the earth, not the earth around the sun. I know that you did not learn this in public school, but this is what the Bible teaches. Please read on. ***What do you know about this, Tracy?*** I learned about geocentricity last year at the King James Bible conference. Dr. Gerardus Bouw, a Bible-believing astronomer told us attendees all about it. I'm going to break it down for you the way Dr. Bouw broke it down for us... ***Dear Reader, do you believe EVERYTHING the Bible says? Assuming the answer to this question is yes, let me ask you some questions from some scriptures-- 1. In Joshua 10:13, the children of Israel are avenging themselves on their enemies. The Bible says that THE SUN STOOD STILL and hasted not to GO DOWN about a whole day. Friends, according to our science text books, the sun does NOT go down,the earth turns. So in this case, is the Bible wrong when it implies that the sun GOES DOWN? 2. Isaiah 38:8 says THE SUN RETURNED ten degrees by which degrees it was GONE DOWN. In this case, did the sun really GO BACK ten degrees or was the shadow on the sun dial just an optical illusion? 3. This one is a showstopper. It comes from Malachi 4 the last chapter of the Old Testament. It would be about 400 years before God spoke to Israel through John the Baptist. Malachi 4:2 "But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness ARISE with healing in his wings..." Look at this again. Notice how "Sun" has a capital "S". This obviously refers to Jesus. He did ARISE with healing in his wings. Notice how it does not say "Son", it says, "Sun". If the "sun" DOES NOT rise, does this mean that THE SON did not rise? Is all of it an illusion? ***What does all this mean?*** It means that once again we've been lied to. Ever heard of the "Copernican revolution?" Copernicus is the guy who came up with the "heliocentric" model that we use today--the idea that the earth revolves around the sun. There's lots of interesting information concerned with the false science associated with the heliocentric model. But it will have to be reserved for another time, Lord willing. In the mean time you can check out http://www.biblicalastronomer.com Dr. Bouw uses a modified Tychonic model to explain how the solar system works. Just like with evolution, there are many things that cannot be explained with the heliocentric model. I'll warn you that this area of astronomy can get quite technical and mathematical. I'm no expert so if you need formualas, etc. you need to order some books from Dr. Bouw. I recently heard someone say, "Science blew away western religion." This is how many look at the Copernican revolution with it's heliocentric model. This is how the Encyclopedia Americana looks at it too-- "This sharp separation between heaven and earth was basic in the view of tehuniverse that was accepted by Copernicus' contemporaries. Copernicus comprehended the TRUE nature of the earth. He fully understood that it is a planet revolving about the sun, in the company of other planets. Therefore, like its fellow planets, it too is a heavenly body. Since the earth itself is in the heavens, the contrast between heaven and earth VANISHED, being REPLACE BY THE MODERN CONCEPT OF SPACE." What does Genesis 1:1 say? In the beginning God created the HEAVEN AND THE EARTH. The encyclopedia says this distinction VANISHED with Copernicus. See what I mean? The Encyclopedia Americana goes on to say in no uncertain terms that geocentric model was an error. In other words, the Bible is in error. My friends, I know this is a radical concept but don't believe everything science tells you. They make a liar out of God! With the Copernican revolution all of a sudden not only did the Bible lose its authority in science but in morals and other areas as well. It was, and is, looked upon as unreliable. I am looking at a magazine ad right now (a free magazine from the grocery store with recipes). It has on it, a picture of the solar system with the caption, "The Geocentric System" (earth at the center). It says, "Five hundred years ago, the sun was thought to revolve around the earth. People DID NOT KNOW then what we know now. Truths change." No they don't. TRUTH NEVER CHANGES. Truth is absolute. God knew exactly what He was saying when He told us the sun arises and goes down. This ad was by the Office of National Drug Control Policy. In this ad, they say God is ignorant. The Lord gave me this ad maybe one or two days after that brother asked me about geocentricity. There was a gentleman named Sir Fred Hoyle. He was knighted for his cosmological and astronomical prowess. He said this-- "We know that the difference between a heliocentric theory and a geocentric theory is one of relative motion only, and that such a difference has NO physical significance." The geocentric model is not unscientific, it is correct. Unsurprisingly, explains many of the phenomena that heliocentricists can't figure out. Here are dozens of verses that say that the sun moves. Do you believe the Bible? Genesis 15:12 And when the sun was GOING DOWN... 15:17 ...the sun WENT DOWN... 19:23 The sun was RISEN UPON THE EARTH... 28:11 ...the sun was SET... 32:31 ...the sun ROSE upon him Exodus 22:3 If the sun be RISEN upon him... 22:26 ...the sun goeth DOWN: Leviticus 22:7 And when the sun is DOWN... Numbers 2:3 And on the east side toward the RISING of the sun Deuteronomy 11:30 ...by the way where the sun goeth DOWN 23:11 ...when the sun is DOWN... 24:13 ...when the sun GOETH DOWN... 24:15 At his day thou shalt give him his hire, neither shall the sun go DOWN upon it... Joshua 8:29 ...as soon as the sun was DOWN... 10:13 And the sun STOOD STILL, and the moon stayed...So the sun STOOD STILL in the midst of heaven, and HASTED NOT TO GO DOWN about a whole day. Judges 5:31 ...but let them that love him be as the sun when he GOETH FORTH in his might. 8:13 And Gideon the son of Joash returned from battle before the sun was UP, 9:33 And it shall be, that in the morning, as soon as the sun is UP.. 14:18 And the men of the city said unto him on the seventh day before the sun WENT DOWN... 19:14 ...the sun went down upon them 2 Samuel 2:24 ...the sun WENT DOWN... 3:35 ...till the sun be DOWN. 23:4 ...when the SUN RISETH... 2 Chronicles 18:34 the time of the sun GOING DOWN he died. Psalms 50:1 ...RISING of the sun unto the GOING DOWN thereof. 104:19 He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his GOING DOWN. 104:22 The sun ARISETH... 113:3 From the RISING of the sun unto THE GOING DOWN of the same the LORD's name is to be praised. Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ARISETH, and the sun GOETH DOWN, and HASTETH to his place where he AROSE. Isaiah 38:8 ...So the sun RETURNED ten degrees,by which degrees it was GONE DOWN. 41:25 from the RISING of the sun 60:20 Thy sun shall no more GO DOWN; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself... Jeremiah 15:9 her sun is GONE DOWN... Daniel 6:14 ...he laboured till the GOING DOWN of the sun to deliver him. Amos 8:9 I will cause the sun TO GO DOWN at noon... Jonah 4:8 And it came to pass, when the sun did ARISE... Micah 3:6 the sun shall GO DOWN over the prophets... Nahum 3:17 ...when the sun ARISETH... Habakkuk 3:11 The sun and moon STOOD STILL in their habitation... Malachi 1:11 For from the RISING of the sun even unto the GOING DOWN of the same 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness ARISE Matthew 5:45 ...he maketh his sun to RISE... Mark 1:32 And at even, when the sun did SET... Luke 4:40 Now when the sun was SETTING... Ephesians 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun GO DOWN upon your wrath: James 1:11 For the sun is no sooner RISEN... ***Dear friend, pray about it. Question EVERYTHING the wicked world tells you. for Jesus' sake, sis. tracy -- http://www.jesus-is-lord.com ...I do send thee unto them; and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD. And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns be with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house. Ezekiel 2:4, 6